Cookware

[Deisyg21]

Hello everyone, I am here to ask for your advice. I don't cook often but I am worried because I have been cooking with cookware that can damage my conures. So now I gave all my cookware away and Im looking for something safe. I have several questions:

Is all stainless steel cookware safe (PFOA and PTFE free)? While looking at these cookware none of them says or states is pfoa and Ptfe free. So I am guessing that they don’t state that because all of them are PFOA and PTFE free?
Is fully clad-stainless steel the same as just stainless steel? Is it safe too? I was looking into buying this one

https://madeincookware.com/products/stainless-steel-stock-pots

And this one:

https://greatjonesgoods.com/products/big-deal

Or:

https://www.amazon.com/Calphalon-Co...ot+10+quart&qid=1582453850&sr=8-13&th=1&psc=1

Or:

https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-76...1582497831&sprefix=stainless+steel+10+&sr=8-4

Are these four safe? Advise
Which one did you think its my best option?


Is all ceramic nonstick safe? Some of them states they are PFOA and PTFE free but others don’t. So I am confused. I thought anything nonstick was not safe. But apparently some nonstick ceramic are PFOA and PTFE free? So is this true for every nonstick ceramic cookware?

Any recommendations on what you are using for cooking? Something durable and that the food doesn’t stick to the bottom? Can you put a link or a picture of the ones you use and highly recommend?

Thank you so much to everyone

 

[noodles123]

If it is 100% stainless, then you are good. If not, you need to call and give them the full names and abbreviations for ptfe, pfoa, pfc's and Teflon (brand-name).

 

[noodles123]

This one is an example of what is likely NOT safe!!!! NOT necessarily SAFE--AGAIN (unless you can verify--I don't know, but it clearly is coated)-- https://www.amazon.com/T-fal-Precis...t-Dishwasher/dp/B0110FJGOE?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_9 Anything "non-stick" raises red-flags in my mind, and it has to be free from PTFE, PFOA, AND PFCs to be safe. A pan can be free from one and not the others. Silicone is also not safe.
Your second and third links look promising-- I would just check---call and give them the full names and abbreviation (Teflon, PTFE, PFOA, and PFCS-including full names spelled out).

 

[Deisyg21]

If it is 100% stainless, then you are good. If not, you need to call and give them the full names and abbreviations for ptfe, pfoa, pfc's and Teflon (brand-name).

How do I know if is 100% stainless steel? Sorry I am not into cooking that much.
Do you know if any of these two work? Which ones do you use and recommend? Thank you in advance

https://madeincookware.com/products/stainless-steel-stock-pots


https://greatjonesgoods.com/product...&ranSiteID=TnL5HPStwNw-HYQG82l9gRkHkeRjuOcReA

 

[Deisyg21]

This one is an example of what is likely NOT safe!!!! NOT necessarily SAFE--AGAIN (unless you can verify--I don't know, but it clearly is coated)-- https://www.amazon.com/T-fal-Precis...t-Dishwasher/dp/B0110FJGOE?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_9 Anything "non-stick" raises red-flags in my mind, and it has to be free from PTFE, PFOA, AND PFCs to be safe. A pan can be free from one and not the others. Silicone is also not safe.
Your second and third links look promising-- I would just check---call and give them the full names and abbreviation (Teflon, PTFE, PFOA, and PFCS-including full names spelled out).

So I should go with either one of this options? I think they are all stainless steel but Im not sure if they are safe since I don’t know anything about this topic.

https://greatjonesgoods.com/product...&ranSiteID=TnL5HPStwNw-HYQG82l9gRkHkeRjuOcReA

https://anolon.com/collections/cookware/products/nouvelle-copper-stainless-steel-cookware-set

https://madeincookware.com/products/stainless-steel-stock-pots

Also, i bought a mini set of blue diamond advanced ceramic nonstick that states that its pfoa, ptfe and pfos free in the box. Do you think they are ok? Since from what I understand you not everything that says that is pfoa and ptfe is safe, specially if its nonstick.

 

[fiddlejen]

The old fashion type of ceramic, which is ceramic baked on to iron is going to be safe. The newer type of ceramic I would not use unless it tells you that it is free of all of those things listed. Even then I would restrict it to use. I have one of those ceramic pans that said it is free of all those things, I got it because I can’t cook eggs the way I want them without it. I still banished my birds to the other rooms close all the intervening curtains and turn on air filters and open windows.

Anything that not says non-stick, you should just avoid.

 

[fiddlejen]

So I should go with either one of this options? I think they are all stainless steel but Im not sure if they are safe since I don’t know anything about this topic.

https://greatjonesgoods.com/product...&ranSiteID=TnL5HPStwNw-HYQG82l9gRkHkeRjuOcReA

https://anolon.com/collections/cookware/products/nouvelle-copper-stainless-steel-cookware-set

https://madeincookware.com/products/stainless-steel-stock-pots

Also, i bought a mini set of blue diamond advanced ceramic nonstick that states that its pfoa, ptfe and pfos free in the box. Do you think they are ok? Since from what I understand you not everything that says that is pfoa and ptfe is safe, specially if its nonstick.

Out of this group, the first and third show large pots that are stainless inside, but which includes frypans one of them says that it’s ceramic so it might Might be acceptable the other shows clearly nonstick fry pan’s which are definitely not acceptable.

Your middle link is bringing up various collections to choose from one of them is labeled stainless the picture above the word stainless shows a full set which I believe would be acceptable I don’t know anything about the copper trim on it but the pans himself seem to be fully stainless so as long as there’s not a problem with copper, which I’m not sure of, otherwise that stainless is set in the middle should be perfectly fine.

(Please forgive that run on sentence I’m using voice to text my phone screen is too small for regular typing.)

 

[Deisyg21]

So I should go with either one of this options? I think they are all stainless steel but Im not sure if they are safe since I don’t know anything about this topic.

https://greatjonesgoods.com/product...&ranSiteID=TnL5HPStwNw-HYQG82l9gRkHkeRjuOcReA

https://anolon.com/collections/cookware/products/nouvelle-copper-stainless-steel-cookware-set

https://madeincookware.com/products/stainless-steel-stock-pots

Also, i bought a mini set of blue diamond advanced ceramic nonstick that states that its pfoa, ptfe and pfos free in the box. Do you think they are ok? Since from what I understand you not everything that says that is pfoa and ptfe is safe, specially if its nonstick.

Out of this group, the first and third show large pots that are stainless inside, but which includes frypans one of them says that it’s ceramic so it might Might be acceptable the other shows clearly nonstick fry pan’s which are definitely not acceptable.

Your middle link is bringing up various collections to choose from one of them is labeled stainless the picture above the word stainless shows a full set which I believe would be acceptable I don’t know anything about the copper trim on it but the pans himself seem to be fully stainless so as long as there’s not a problem with copper, which I’m not sure of, otherwise that stainless is set in the middle should be perfectly fine.

(Please forgive that run on sentence I’m using voice to text my phone screen is too small for regular typing.)

Hello, thank you for taking your time to answer. I appreciate it. I tried to contact manufacturer on all of them and I only got answer from Made In For this 8 qt pot. So apparently their Stainless steel cookware is safe to use around birds but not if its nonstick because it contains PTFE. Am I right?

https://madeincookware.com/products/stainless-steel-stock-pots

The answer was:
Thanks for reaching out! The 8 QT stainless clad pot has not PFOA, PFAS, or PTFE on it, nor does it have a polish applied. Our stainless clad collection has a brushed finish to it, which means there's no extra coatings on the stainless steel exterior. As for the composition, it is not 100% stainless steel.

Our stainless clad pots & pans utilize a 5-ply composition method. Our three "internal" layers are aluminum, the inner-most being aluminum alloy with the two surrounding layers near pure aluminum. Aluminum alloy has magnesium and manganese added to increase the strength and hardness of the aluminum. The alloy layer is surrounded by near pure aluminum because aluminum alloy doesn't bond directly to stainless steel. Near pure aluminum, on the other hand, is great for bonding with stainless steel while also increasing the thickness of our highly heat-conductive, durability-reinforced aluminum core.

The external layer of our cookware on the cooking side is 304, 18/10 stainless steel. The 18/10 stainless steel resists corrosion and rust and won't react with your food. The external layer of our cookware on the element-facing side is made from a high-grade ferritic stainless steel, so it is both durable and magnetic (to work with induction cooktops).

This combination of cladded metals provides superior heat retention and durability but is more expensive to produce. We control our entire supply chain and buy our raw materials direct, so we have great insight into the processes at our factories.

Our non stick stainless clad cookware is made via the exact same process with the addition of a non-stick coating applied in Illinois. The all-American PTFE coating (made without PFOA) is applied three times, with a full cure between coatings.

More information on this can be found on our product design page here. Let me know if you have any other questions!

 

[Cagzo]

I just keep Connie out of the kitchen with door closed,when cooking,cleaning,washing,never burn incense sticks or cones,and shes never unsupervised,you dont know what they will nibble at,shes already had crystals out of my earrings,fortunately she dropped them.

 

[noodles123]

I just keep Connie out of the kitchen with door closed,when cooking,cleaning,washing,never burn incense sticks or cones,and shes never unsupervised,you dont know what they will nibble at,shes already had crystals out of my earrings,fortunately she dropped them.

PTFE/PFOA/PFCs kill birds through closed doors and on different floors. Please do not make the mistake of thinking that closing doors will protect your bird from these chemicals. Sometimes it doesn't happen on the first exposure, and sometimes it does...but we have had many members lose birds all over their homes from typical cooking in pans that had not been overheated...

 

[noodles123]

Out of this group, the first and third show large pots that are stainless inside, but which includes frypans one of them says that it’s ceramic so it might Might be acceptable the other shows clearly nonstick fry pan’s which are definitely not acceptable.

Your middle link is bringing up various collections to choose from one of them is labeled stainless the picture above the word stainless shows a full set which I believe would be acceptable I don’t know anything about the copper trim on it but the pans himself seem to be fully stainless so as long as there’s not a problem with copper, which I’m not sure of, otherwise that stainless is set in the middle should be perfectly fine.

(Please forgive that run on sentence I’m using voice to text my phone screen is too small for regular typing.)

Hello, thank you for taking your time to answer. I appreciate it. I tried to contact manufacturer on all of them and I only got answer from Made In For this 8 qt pot. So apparently their Stainless steel cookware is safe to use around birds but not if its nonstick because it contains PTFE. Am I right?

https://madeincookware.com/products/stainless-steel-stock-pots

The answer was:
Thanks for reaching out! The 8 QT stainless clad pot has not PFOA, PFAS, or PTFE on it, nor does it have a polish applied. Our stainless clad collection has a brushed finish to it, which means there's no extra coatings on the stainless steel exterior. As for the composition, it is not 100% stainless steel.

Our stainless clad pots & pans utilize a 5-ply composition method. Our three "internal" layers are aluminum, the inner-most being aluminum alloy with the two surrounding layers near pure aluminum. Aluminum alloy has magnesium and manganese added to increase the strength and hardness of the aluminum. The alloy layer is surrounded by near pure aluminum because aluminum alloy doesn't bond directly to stainless steel. Near pure aluminum, on the other hand, is great for bonding with stainless steel while also increasing the thickness of our highly heat-conductive, durability-reinforced aluminum core.

The external layer of our cookware on the cooking side is 304, 18/10 stainless steel. The 18/10 stainless steel resists corrosion and rust and won't react with your food. The external layer of our cookware on the element-facing side is made from a high-grade ferritic stainless steel, so it is both durable and magnetic (to work with induction cooktops).

This combination of cladded metals provides superior heat retention and durability but is more expensive to produce. We control our entire supply chain and buy our raw materials direct, so we have great insight into the processes at our factories.

Our non stick stainless clad cookware is made via the exact same process with the addition of a non-stick coating applied in Illinois. The all-American PTFE coating (made without PFOA) is applied three times, with a full cure between coatings.

More information on this can be found on our product design page here. Let me know if you have any other questions!

That is a solid description and it sounds safe--- at least that one.

 

[nightfly]

When I decided to get a parrot, I got rid of all my non stick cookware. I replaced them with cast iron and Visions clear ceramic pots made by Corning. You may have to build up your arms to work with the heavy cast iron pots and pans, but you'll get used to it, and never have to worry about accidentally killing your birds by the fumes from burning non stick coatings.
With the research showing that dietary fats have zero connection to heart and vascular disease, it's save to use butter, bacon drippings, and beef talow as your frying fats. So enjoy your tasty foods, and your lifetime lasting cast iron cookware.