Bumblefoot?...

[Raisin]

So, we recently bought 2 new tiels. A male and a female. They used to be kept as pets in the house we bought them from. They were in a fairly good-sized cage with only one perch. And they were only fed sunflower seeds. Luckily, they're not addicted to them and eats other seeds as well. But they won't try any other healthier foods. We're going to keep on trying to give them more veggies.

Both of them tolerate people being around them but they aren't hand tame. The female accepts treats from hand. The male hates hands. We're working on taming them more and so far, we have seen good results. The male is a pied and the female is a whiteface though her plumage is lighter than normal.

Because of the conditions they lived in before, the female seems to have bumblefoot. We don't have any vets in the country so the only option we have is to home treat her. It doesn't seem to be that bad and hopefully, we will be able to treat it at home. So, what are any options that are available to treat her?

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[noodles123]

So, we recently bought 2 new tiels. A male and a female. They used to be kept as pets in the house we bought them from. They were in a fairly good-sized cage with only one perch. And they were only fed sunflower seeds. Luckily, they're not addicted to them and eats other seeds as well. But they won't try any other healthier foods. We're going to keep on trying to give them more veggies.

Both of them tolerate people being around them but they aren't hand tame. The female accepts treats from hand. The male hates hands. We're working on taming them more and so far, we have seen good results. The male is a pied and the female is a whiteface though her plumage is lighter than normal.

Because of the conditions they lived in before, the female seems to have bumblefoot. We don't have any vets in the country so the only option we have is to home treat her. It doesn't seem to be that bad and hopefully, we will be able to treat it at home. So, what are any options that are available to treat her?

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With no vets, how do you get bird antibiotics? It is awfully common for them to need them..for many illnesses...


Here is a link...bumblefoot is complicated and normally, the earlier you catch it and treat it, the better...and sometimes antibiotics are needed...

https://hari.ca/avian-care/health-monitoring/symptoms-treatment-bumblefoot-parrots/

http://freedomflightsparrotrescue.ca/bumblefoot/

It talks about applying antibiotic in some cases, and providing oral antibiotics in some as well, but remember, human neosporin etc= not necessarily safe for birds...so it really is complicated.

Clean the wounds...keep cages and perches IMMACULATELY (sterile as possible), provide clean but varied perches, improve immunity via nutrition, sleep etc...medicate with vet assistance...surgery is sometimes needed (depending on the severity and whether it is impacting muscles).

 

[macawpower58]

One thing with bumblefoot (my sister's Amazon has it) is to make sure there are no dowel perches. Put in all natural branches, the dowels make it so much worse, and I believe can actually be a large contributing factor.

 

[GaleriaGila]

I, too, will offer some additional resources on seeking out veterinary care (and/or second opinions). Good luck!
Certified Avian Vets
https://abvp.com/animal-owners/find-an-abvp-specialist/
If none are near you...
Avian Veterinarians
http://www.aav.org/search/custom.asp?id=1803
In my opinion, any of the vets listed above should be better than a regular vet, although exceptions do exist!
Sometimes, it helps just to Google "avian veterinarian - [YOUR LOCATION]"
And here is a link concerning COVID issues...
http://www.parrotforums.com/general-health-care/85090-covid-19-veterinary-care.html

 

[Raisin]

There aren't any avian vets anywhere near me (Maldives). The closest is in India and transporting a bird to India... I'm not sure if we can even do it. We have already gotten natural bird safe perches, but we haven't put it in the cage yet. We will soon. Currently, the cage does not have a dowel perch. But we just got new perches with more variety.

We're also trying to give her veggies like carrots and dandelion greens. But, since she is a seed junkie, she isn't eating any, and neither is her mate. We're also making sure her cage is clean and she is getting 11 hours of sleep at the least.

 

[noodles123]

There aren't any avian vets anywhere near me (Maldives). The closest is in India and transporting a bird to India... I'm not sure if we can even do it. We have already gotten natural bird safe perches, but we haven't put it in the cage yet. We will soon. Currently, the cage does not have a dowel perch. But we just got new perches with more variety.

We're also trying to give her veggies like carrots and dandelion greens. But, since she is a seed junkie, she isn't eating any, and neither is her mate. We're also making sure her cage is clean and she is getting 11 hours of sleep at the least.

Well, mine took 2 entire years to even try raw spinach (with 4x weekly exposure), if that gives you an idea of how long it could take lol

 

[Raisin]

Well, mine took 2 entire years to even try raw spinach (with 4x weekly exposure), if that gives you an idea of how long it could take lol

Yep, We'll definitely keep on trying!

 

[Jottlebot]

I looks like bumblefoot, but I don't think it's too bad. Do what you can with their diet, sounds like you're on the right track even if she's reluctant to try new things.

Can she get some sun? Don't know if it will help, but sun and baths seem to do most birds the world of good!

I'm absolutely not a vet, but I wouldn't think she would need antibiotics. What you must do is put in new perches of different sizes and keep them totally clean. I had a Mynah with bumblefoot (it looked like the foot on your girl that is swollen, but not broken yet) and I took her to a vet who didn't need to treat it. I didn't feel I could clean her perches well enough so I covered them in vet wrap and changed it every few days or as soon as it was dirty.

 

[Raisin]

hmmm... getting her some sun would be difficult since she is not tame. After she gets all better she will be living outside in a bigger cage.

so she will get her sun then..