attitude problem
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Birdman666 does have excellent posting and it is well worth making that effort.
Although this forum has many individuals with extensive understanding of Amazons. To provide you with information, additional information is needed. Age of your Amazon, How long has your Amazon be with you. When the event(s) happen, etc...
Developing a trust bond with your Amazon is an ongoing process. The goal is to always target building trust. The how to will always vary depending on what is happen in any given moment. Take the time to read the primary (first thread - Body Language) in this (Amazon) section. Learning to read you Amazon will go along way in understand your Amazon, which will lead to building trust.
Although this forum has many individuals with extensive understanding of Amazons. To provide you with information, additional information is needed. Age of your Amazon, How long has your Amazon be with you. When the event(s) happen, etc...
Developing a trust bond with your Amazon is an ongoing process. The goal is to always target building trust. The how to will always vary depending on what is happen in any given moment. Take the time to read the primary (first thread - Body Language) in this (Amazon) section. Learning to read you Amazon will go along way in understand your Amazon, which will lead to building trust.
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Birdman666
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THAT'S JUST AMAZON OVERLOAD...
When they get wound up, they get carried away, and don't control their bite pressure.
And how do amazons play with their toys?! THAT'S RIGHT! THEY ATTACK THEM AND BITE THE CRAP OUT OF THEM...
So when he's wound up like that, you know what he's going to do. DON'T GIVE HIM ACCESS TO ANY FLESH AT THAT POINT. WAIT FOR HIM TO CALM DOWN.
Also, some of this could be hormonal/territorial triggers. During breeding seasons, Male amazons especially go into "defend the nest" mode, and can become aggressive in and around their cage, because nature "hard wired" them to protect their nest during breeding season.
Competition for nest sites is fierce in the wild, and an amazon that loses his nest site, doesn't get to breed. Those wild instincts remain in captive settings. So, especially at the onset of breeding season, the territorial behaviors kick in.
Hint: THIS is amazon breeding season. We're in the peak of it. This is where the bad hormonal behaviors kick in. Give it a month or two, and they go away.
When they get wound up, they get carried away, and don't control their bite pressure.
And how do amazons play with their toys?! THAT'S RIGHT! THEY ATTACK THEM AND BITE THE CRAP OUT OF THEM...
So when he's wound up like that, you know what he's going to do. DON'T GIVE HIM ACCESS TO ANY FLESH AT THAT POINT. WAIT FOR HIM TO CALM DOWN.
Also, some of this could be hormonal/territorial triggers. During breeding seasons, Male amazons especially go into "defend the nest" mode, and can become aggressive in and around their cage, because nature "hard wired" them to protect their nest during breeding season.
Competition for nest sites is fierce in the wild, and an amazon that loses his nest site, doesn't get to breed. Those wild instincts remain in captive settings. So, especially at the onset of breeding season, the territorial behaviors kick in.
Hint: THIS is amazon breeding season. We're in the peak of it. This is where the bad hormonal behaviors kick in. Give it a month or two, and they go away.
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Birdman666
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AMAZON OVERLOAD is not a trust issue. It's an overstimulation thing...
AMAZON TERRITORIAL BEHAVIORS are not trust issues. It's a hormonal thing that happens at certain times of the year. THE TERRITORY is the trigger. Not you, necessarily. The answer to that one is to take him out of his territory, where he can't see the cage, and then there is nothing to defend, so he calms down...
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Welcome to the forum.Like sailboat stated , we need lots more info about your household as well as your zon. The more history, the better advice we can offer. Loads of good info in the older threads in this section of the forum. BTW do you know what species of amazon you have? Pics, vids and stories always help.
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The title of the thread made me laugh once I saw it was in the amazon section...especially since Kelly was being a brat the other day
Made me laugh, too, especially since MOST Amazons have an attitude problem (....at least every once in a while).
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All zons, like all sennies, have 'tude. Goes with the territory.
There are times with a zon, where you simply have to take "I don't wanna, leave me alone" for an answer. Doesn't mean they're completely anti-social. It just means "not now."
"Well, my attitude is only a problem if you mess with me... If you don't mess with me, there won't be a problem. "
THEY'RE VERY INDEPENDENT CREATURES...
There are times with a zon, where you simply have to take "I don't wanna, leave me alone" for an answer. Doesn't mean they're completely anti-social. It just means "not now."
"Well, my attitude is only a problem if you mess with me... If you don't mess with me, there won't be a problem. "
THEY'RE VERY INDEPENDENT CREATURES...
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And a Normal Grey Cockatiel named BB who came home with me on 5/20/2016.
Having Amy for 27 years I have seen it all. Yep she has 'tude problems too even though we are closely bonded. She still wont let me put my hand in her cage,and when I put her perch stick in to get her out,she climbs everywhere and anywhere,usually hanging from the top of her roof,with one foot on the perch and the other one kicking like mad lol. She comes out on HER terms.
and I posted the other day..if she is on the floor and someone walks into the living room,out goes her arms and tail and she makes a made dash for your feet She nailed the top of my foot real good the other day,and stupid me was barefoot :11: Ouch!
Jim
and I posted the other day..if she is on the floor and someone walks into the living room,out goes her arms and tail and she makes a made dash for your feet
She nailed the top of my foot real good the other day,and stupid me was barefoot :11: Ouch!Jim
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The pillow trick will fix that one.
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Going to have to try that one the next time she turns witchy on me :09:
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I've got birds that chase feet, but if they catch them they only regurg on them...
My little lilac crowned gets down on the ground and She'll chase you. You don't budge. Then she just stands there. Okay, what do I do now?! I have no idea why I just did that...
Tusk usually grabs toes either to get your attention, or as part of the pop out from under the cage/gotcha game...
Maggie runs around on the floor chasing Sarah, and vice versa, and she used to play that game with my ex-girlfriend as well... but she won't play it with me for some reason... Literally running around the couch in circles, running along the floor, etc. (But when either one of them sits down, it means game over, climb on my lap...)
WOODY used to go after people's feet with intent to maim at times...
My little lilac crowned gets down on the ground and She'll chase you. You don't budge. Then she just stands there. Okay, what do I do now?! I have no idea why I just did that...
Tusk usually grabs toes either to get your attention, or as part of the pop out from under the cage/gotcha game...
Maggie runs around on the floor chasing Sarah, and vice versa, and she used to play that game with my ex-girlfriend as well... but she won't play it with me for some reason... Literally running around the couch in circles, running along the floor, etc. (But when either one of them sits down, it means game over, climb on my lap...)
WOODY used to go after people's feet with intent to maim at times...
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My YNA gets ornery fairly frequently. They seem to believe that they're absolutely the "alpha" creatures in the household, and when they don't feel like doing something, there's gonna be trouble if you try to force them!
When Sammy gets that way (today, for instance - he was out of his cage, I needed to go to work NOW, and he flatly refused to go back in - because of the dogs, I can't leave him out when I'm not there), I put a treat in his cage and then, most importantly, I turn my back & walk away. He almost immediately goes back in because a) there's a delicious peanut awaiting him, and b) since I'm not looking, it's HIS idea to go back in!
When Sammy gets that way (today, for instance - he was out of his cage, I needed to go to work NOW, and he flatly refused to go back in - because of the dogs, I can't leave him out when I'm not there), I put a treat in his cage and then, most importantly, I turn my back & walk away. He almost immediately goes back in because a) there's a delicious peanut awaiting him, and b) since I'm not looking, it's HIS idea to go back in!
Birdman666
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My red lored amazon actually IS the alpha bird in the flock...
Even the macaws back off when she tells them too... She's "mother hen."
Even the macaws back off when she tells them too... She's "mother hen."
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