Adult female? Eyes don't show whites?

[Moon-And-Silvia]

Hello, as some of you may have seen my entry in the December POTM contest entry, Silvia's (And yes it is spelled w/ an "I" instead of "Sylvia"- we though she was a male at first and named her Silver) eyes are black, like a baby birds'. But I've had her for a little over a year now, and her eyes are not showing the whites, like Moon's. I think this is because maybe her mom was an Albino? With Albinos it is hard to tell if there are whites in their eyes or not, because their eyes are red. But female budgies normally have the whites around 4-6 months of age. I can't tell if there's just an Albino in her genes or if it's something else. Any thoughts?

 

[Laurasea]

My mution also has black eyes as adult. Looks like yours though white pied with blue

 

[Moon-And-Silvia]

My mution also has black eyes as adult. Looks like yours though white pied with blue

Yep, she is a white pied w/ blue on her tail/back, but she also has some yellow on her forehead and chest, if the lighting is right

 

[Laurasea]

Very pretty girl.
I'm not familiar with why this is so. But mine is 3+ years old

 

[Moon-And-Silvia]

Very pretty girl.
I'm not familiar with why this is so. But mine is 3+ years old

huh, maybe it's just a mutation of some sort

 

[StormyPica]

Recessive pied budgies (which yours is) do not get white eye rings as adults, nor do males get blue ceres

 

[Kitekeeper]

Recessive pied budgies (which yours is) do not get white eye rings as adults, nor do males get blue ceres

As always, right on spot, StormyPica!

I would add another mutation on her, she is also a golden face as we can see a stronger shade of yellow in the forehead, neck and chest.

 

[Laurasea]

My Cloudy is a male pied with pink cere

I love her golden hue, such a pretty girl

 

[Moon-And-Silvia]

Recessive pied budgies (which yours is) do not get white eye rings as adults, nor do males get blue ceres

So you're saying she could be a male?? How do I tell the difference?
EDIT: I remember going to the vet for Moon when he had worms, and the vet said that he was male (I had thought he was female at the time) because females and males have different ways of biting things. Males just bite down hard, whereas females bite down and grind their low beak. Are there other was to tell the difference?

 

[Laurasea]

I think female. You can another pic that shower cere better. But if cere gets crusty is female
Thus is my male, his cere gets deep pink during hormones , the picture isn't showing how pink in person

 

[StormyPica]

Recessive pieds can be incredibly hard to sex without a DNA test.

 

[Moon-And-Silvia]

I think female. You can another pic that shower cere better. But if cere gets crusty is female
Thus is my male, his cere gets deep pink during hormones , the picture isn't showing how pink in person
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Her cere is a little crusty and flaky, but we just thought that's because when we first got her, she would fly into the window sliding-door leading into the sunroom. Thanks!

 

[Kitekeeper]

Her cere is a little crusty and flaky,

Female budgies can develop that cere aspect when they are ready to mate. It comes and goes depending on her hormonal changes.