Dinochicken
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Rio has come out of her cage fully twice but was super fearful and she goes on the top and on the sides of her cage, but not that often, she always rushes back inside…I would say she is very cage bound. I’m always open to hearing everyone’s opinions and experiences because I want to learn as much as I can to further my knowledge to take proper care of them! With that I have to say, I’m not too sure how cold is too cold for them? It’s starting to get chilly here in Texas and I would hate to see her stay inside all winter long.Oh. Before I go. There is something powerfully healing in getting them outside, to feel the wind, the fresh air sbd light. I secure every inch of their cage, bottom trey, food doors , extra lock on all doors, And roll it outside not in full sun. And i just sit with them. Maybe they freak out at first, but I show them by sitting quietly, nothing to fear. I wait until they are calm and we just hang out. Some love it the second they get to be outside. For birds that haven't been outside in years, its powerfully healing.
My rescue Penny i found in very dark shelf with dim light so far back in a huge store no sunlight reached, in cage so small she couldn't stand up. Her whole body matted in poop. When we outside for the first time .....it makes me cry. .after we were just sitting quietly, I was asking nothing of her. I don't know how long it was, but she let out a huge sigh, her whole body relaxed. I felt so much of her anger fall away. She was changed . We did a half hour every day for a few weeks. The light and spark came back to her eyes.
Maybe yours will benefit from thst as much as Penny did
Yes! When they got her as a hatchling she would free roam be loved on, etc. as she got bigger though they started neglecting her and stopped buying her toys because she “destroyed” them and would just be all around mean to her. She has never had a bath either until I got her and gave her a mist bath, I’m going to give the handheld perch a go, do I eventually move to her stepping up on my hand?Rescue of large highly intelligent Parrots that have been abused requires a very long time to develop a strong trust bond, years is not out of the question.
It is very likely that at one time, this Parrot had been loved and trained and it clearly shows in her actions. Step-up looks like one of those long ago trained moments.
Take the concept of time lines and trash it. You will be working for years to have tiny steps and when they happen, assure you reward as if it was a super major step. As they begin to gather, enjoy them.
If hands are a big issue, especially for Step-up, use a hand held perch.
It is truly worth the effort as when they begin trusting again, it is heart lifting and filled with joy!
Remember that your World is now based on: Little tiny steps are truly huge steps.
Cheers.
I’m going to definitely try this with her! What if she goes on top of her cage? Should I let her or try to avoid the whole cage top thing? She comes down eventually it just takes some time. It looks like she really wants to interact outside of her cage, but is scared to at the same time.Dino
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You really should be proud of all the success you have had so far with Rio! You got her on a better diet, you are able to have love even through cage bars. For her to attempt to come out of the cage. That's a lot to be proud of !
You are going to keep making progress, sometimes its slow. You have done great for a few months.
I myself don't take mine out if its less than 70. If you want you could roll the cage to the door and open it and just let her look out .
Other members will come along and share ideas and support. Keep sharing your story with us.
Edit: this is an article by Pamela Clark where she talks about shaping and helping 2 fearful parrots. Hopefully you might it helpful.
Teaching a Fearful Parrot to Step Up
Today I want to celebrate a success story about overcoming fear in parrots. I met Judith and her parrots, Arlo and Audrey, in mid-January of 2018. Judith sought my help because Arlo had become afra…blogpamelaclarkonline.com
Another good article
Managing Behavior through Environmental Change
By making simple changes to the environment, you can often accomplish amazing improvements in problem behaviors. When referring to environment, social exchanges are included in the discussion, as w…blogpamelaclarkonline.com
It can really help to break things down to small steps. Its shaping the brain to move forward. Like teaching them to target the treat only dish as you move it farther away from the cage door.
You might also find it helpful to create a platform level with cage door, and shoved up right next to cage, as a nice big surface area to come out to for training and enteraction. A side table or something like that cover it with something non slip and that won't catch nails. I get a few yards of outdoor fabric or canvas from hobby store and duct tape it under the table yiu fint want it slipping and feeling unstable. Its often easier to work with them out of the cage, this gives you space while still letting feel its part of tge cage or cage security is right there. You could enteract on this by teaching simple foraging. Show a treat and then put a piece if paper only half over it. Have fun. When she. An easily get the treat several times, then you completely cover it. or put it in full view in small box. All of this increases confidence and enteraction with environment, sbd new stuff. Stimulate brain, a way for you 2 to have positive tome together.
She's going to need more time. You've made great progress, but you cannot erase the memory of her abuse, and you mustn't see her distrust as directed at you personally. I worked with an Amazon which came to me after some horrible neglect and abuse, and over time, she became a very loving pet, but it was YEARS, not weeks or months. Stay patient and compassionate. You didn't, and won't, cause her injury, and time will prove your good intentions to her; She's got a loving home, and that's an excellent start!I rescued a 3 year old B&G macaw who was very neglected and abused. Background on her… She would get her beak flicked, her cage hit when she screamed, fed tortillas, nuts, etc. she only had one perch in her cage and that’s it. She was my friends Grandmas bird and the only people Rio (that’s her name) liked was her grandpa who was the only one who was kind to her. She would let him let her, cradle her, etc. so I’ve had her almost 2 months and I’ve cleaned her diet up to natural pellets, lots and lots of veggies, nuts for treats and fruit here and there. I’ve also been doing permission base training which has been working so far. The things I notice with her though are, she only lets me live on her and pet her through the bars of the cage, she always comes up to the bars when she sees me and of course I give her loves. I put a perch on her door and taught her to go on that specific perch when she wants to “train” or interact which she does everytime she sees me as well. When I open the door she will come up to me but as soon as she sees my hand even getting close to her she bites or lunges..not out of aggression but fear. I don’t react to her when she does because it will only scare her more. She will also lift her foot up and when my other macaw does this it’s because she wants me to pick her up, but when Rio does it it’s a hit or miss sometimes she will step up or sometimes she will bite. My question is why does she only let me pet her and handle her through the bars and why does she do the foot thing? And what can I do to help her feathers? They’re in really bad condition she is also currently molting. I have Rios full background so if you want to ask questions shoot! My other rescue macaw was a mystery so it was a little bit more of a challenge with her.
UPDATE: This is Rio the 1st picture is the day my husband drove across the country to get her as you can see she was not in good shape at all…2nd picture was the first time we got her to come away from her cage and she was very scared the 3rd and 4th picture you can see a better close up of the condition of her feathers. Also she didn’t have much in her cage in the 4th picture because it was super last minute with us getting her so we put what extra perches and toys we did have in there. Since then she has a new cage lots of perches and lots of wood toys because they are her favorite. We recently bought tools to cut wood and make our own bird toys because between her and our other macaw (Athena) they go through A LOT of toys. We also just bought a house and picked it out specifically to accommodate the birds we have (silly I know). It has 4 bedrooms, 3 full baths, is 2000sqft, out in the middle of nowhere basically and has 2 acres so we can put a large aviary attached to their room with a camera put in so we can monitor them when we can’t actively be in there aviary or room with them! Our future plans for her are to register her in free flight courses…I know it’ll probably be years for her to get there, but thank goodness they live a long time. Thank you all for your advice! I will be trying any advice that was given with her, it’s hard to find support when it comes to these beauties as not many people know much about them, I’m so glad I found this community as now I know where to turn to for help!!
Hi! I'm so happy you've rescued this sweet bird and are giving her such great care! My reply is a little off topic, but since you mentioned making toys yourself because of the expense, I wanted to pass on what has worked really well for my Green Wing Macaw and saved me a LOT of money. I bought a plastic bin (14" long, 9" wide, 5" deep) and keep it on the bottom of the cage in a back corner. (It's positioned away from any perches, so my bird can't poop on it.) About once a month, I go to the dollar store and load up on anything and everything my bird can "play with" and destroy, and keep the bin filled with those toys. Of course, the "toys" are all stuff that isn't dangerous to him like plastic toys for small children (toy soldiers, plastic blocks, solid teething rings, etc.) and other stuff from around the store (wood spoons and clothes pins, spools, shower curtain rings, etc.). During the day, he'll climb down to his toy box and find something to play with, and at the end of the day, I'll collect the large pieces, wash them off, and put them back in his toy box for more play the next day. You can also find the inexpensive, plastic toys in bags at WalMart, Target, etc.
I rescued a 3 year old B&G macaw who was very neglected and abused. Background on her… She would get her beak flicked, her cage hit when she screamed, fed tortillas, nuts, etc. she only had one perch in her cage and that’s it. She was my friends Grandmas bird and the only people Rio (that’s her name) liked was her grandpa who was the only one who was kind to her. She would let him let her, cradle her, etc. so I’ve had her almost 2 months and I’ve cleaned her diet up to natural pellets, lots and lots of veggies, nuts for treats and fruit here and there. I’ve also been doing permission base training which has been working so far. The things I notice with her though are, she only lets me live on her and pet her through the bars of the cage, she always comes up to the bars when she sees me and of course I give her loves. I put a perch on her door and taught her to go on that specific perch when she wants to “train” or interact which she does everytime she sees me as well. When I open the door she will come up to me but as soon as she sees my hand even getting close to her she bites or lunges..not out of aggression but fear. I don’t react to her when she does because it will only scare her more. She will also lift her foot up and when my other macaw does this it’s because she wants me to pick her up, but when Rio does it it’s a hit or miss sometimes she will step up or sometimes she will bite. My question is why does she only let me pet her and handle her through the bars and why does she do the foot thing? And what can I do to help her feathers? They’re in really bad condition she is also currently molting. I have Rios full background so if you want to ask questions shoot! My other rescue macaw was a mystery so it was a little bit more of a challenge with her.
UPDATE: This is Rio the 1st picture is the day my husband drove across the country to get her as you can see she was not in good shape at all…2nd picture was the first time we got her to come away from her cage and she was very scared the 3rd and 4th picture you can see a better close up of the condition of her feathers. Also she didn’t have much in her cage in the 4th picture because it was super last minute with us getting her so we put what extra perches and toys we did have in there. Since then she has a new cage lots of perches and lots of wood toys because they are her favorite. We recently bought tools to cut wood and make our own bird toys because between her and our other macaw (Athena) they go through A LOT of toys. We also just bought a house and picked it out specifically to accommodate the birds we have (silly I know). It has 4 bedrooms, 3 full baths, is 2000sqft, out in the middle of nowhere basically and has 2 acres so we can put a large aviary attached to their room with a camera put in so we can monitor them when we can’t actively be in there aviary or room with them! Our future plans for her are to register her in free flight courses…I know it’ll probably be years for her to get there, but thank goodness they live a long time. Thank you all for your advice! I will be trying any advice that was given with her, it’s hard to find support when it comes to these beauties as not many people know much about them, I’m so glad I found this community as now I know where to turn to for help!!
Hi I got a rescue African Grey. He was cage bound. He was used as payment for room rent and left with owners of a house who didn't want him/were scared of him.I rescued a 3 year old B&G macaw who was very neglected and abused. Background on her… She would get her beak flicked, her cage hit when she screamed, fed tortillas, nuts, etc. she only had one perch in her cage and that’s it. She was my friends Grandmas bird and the only people Rio (that’s her name) liked was her grandpa who was the only one who was kind to her. She would let him let her, cradle her, etc. so I’ve had her almost 2 months and I’ve cleaned her diet up to natural pellets, lots and lots of veggies, nuts for treats and fruit here and there. I’ve also been doing permission base training which has been working so far. The things I notice with her though are, she only lets me live on her and pet her through the bars of the cage, she always comes up to the bars when she sees me and of course I give her loves. I put a perch on her door and taught her to go on that specific perch when she wants to “train” or interact which she does everytime she sees me as well. When I open the door she will come up to me but as soon as she sees my hand even getting close to her she bites or lunges..not out of aggression but fear. I don’t react to her when she does because it will only scare her more. She will also lift her foot up and when my other macaw does this it’s because she wants me to pick her up, but when Rio does it it’s a hit or miss sometimes she will step up or sometimes she will bite. My question is why does she only let me pet her and handle her through the bars and why does she do the foot thing? And what can I do to help her feathers? They’re in really bad condition she is also currently molting. I have Rios full background so if you want to ask questions shoot! My other rescue macaw was a mystery so it was a little bit more of a challenge with her.
UPDATE: This is Rio the 1st picture is the day my husband drove across the country to get her as you can see she was not in good shape at all…2nd picture was the first time we got her to come away from her cage and she was very scared the 3rd and 4th picture you can see a better close up of the condition of her feathers. Also she didn’t have much in her cage in the 4th picture because it was super last minute with us getting her so we put what extra perches and toys we did have in there. Since then she has a new cage lots of perches and lots of wood toys because they are her favorite. We recently bought tools to cut wood and make our own bird toys because between her and our other macaw (Athena) they go through A LOT of toys. We also just bought a house and picked it out specifically to accommodate the birds we have (silly I know). It has 4 bedrooms, 3 full baths, is 2000sqft, out in the middle of nowhere basically and has 2 acres so we can put a large aviary attached to their room with a camera put in so we can monitor them when we can’t actively be in there aviary or room with them! Our future plans for her are to register her in free flight courses…I know it’ll probably be years for her to get there, but thank goodness they live a long time. Thank you all for your advice! I will be trying any advice that was given with her, it’s hard to find support when it comes to these beauties as not many people know much about them, I’m so glad I found this community as now I know where to turn to for help!!
Macaws tolerate chilly weather just fine. I'm in Fayetteville, NC and all of my birds stay out until the temps hit the high 30's. Then they come in at night and out during the day (if it is sunny and warm). If the night temps are high 40s they don't come in until the next temps in the 30s. They need FULL sun, with a small area of shade, and a way to get out of any wind/breezes. Most health problems with parrots is because they don't get enough natural sunlight. Her feather condition will improve with this molt, but it can take two or three molts before her improved nutrition affects her feathering.Rio has come out of her cage fully twice but was super fearful and she goes on the top and on the sides of her cage, but not that often, she always rushes back inside…I would say she is very cage bound. I’m always open to hearing everyone’s opinions and experiences because I want to learn as much as I can to further my knowledge to take proper care of them! With that I have to say, I’m not too sure how cold is too cold for them? It’s starting to get chilly here in Texas and I would hate to see her stay inside all winter long.
Good on you for your rescue, and your patience. I have worked with a few B&G rescues myself. I have a couple of thoughts.I rescued a 3 year old B&G macaw who was very neglected and abused. Background on her…